Lezbijska ljubav u knjizevnosti

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Prije još desetak godina,dobila sam (od dečka) knjigu "Ljubičice i bić" od Marije Buretć- Bogović, ispovijest žene sklone ženama..Mislim da je tiskana u jako maloj nakladi,ali sad sam provjerila,da je na primjer (na moje veliko iznenađenje) ima u Knjižnici Vladimira Nazora.... Nema neku veliku umjetničku vrijednost,ali ju je stvarno zgodno pročitati,jer žena piše svoju biografiju,,svoju životnu i ljubavnu priću..Prića je stvarno zanimljiva..Inaće,autorica,je jedna od onih hrabrih žena,,koja se na našim prostorima javno autala,,još 60,70,80-tih (ne sjećam se točno )godina,sada već prošlog stoljeća...stime da nije bila jedna od "djeteta cvijeća" ili sl..
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ali ja sam "skromno" ocekivala nesto vise...


...Naranđe nisu jedino voće-i ja sam očekivala više ali,nije moj tip knjige a još manje nekog zapleta,ali ajd,nije loša..
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Ima jako malo knjiga u kojima je zaista opisana ona prava ljubav izmedju dve zene, bar ja ih nisam pronasla... sve se to nesto upakuje negde "uzgredbudireceno" u neke drugu "vazniju" radnju u knjizi... :evil:

Pa evo, uzmi i procitaj STRAST od iste autorke i videces i sama. Nije da mi se knjiga nije svidela, ali.......
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Sputnik Ljubav (Sputnik sweetheart) - Haruki Murakami

Sumire ne uzvraća ljubav naratoru K-a (čije puno ime, kao ni kod Kafke, nećemo saznati tokom čitavog romana), već se u dvadeset drugoj godini prvi put zaljubljuje, u sedamnaest godina stariju, pri tom udatu ženu, Mju, čime se uvećava lanac neuzvraćenih ljubavi, beskrajne čežnje, a time i patnje...

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Jelena wrote:... sve se to nesto upakuje negde "uzgredbudireceno" u neke drugu "vazniju" radnju u knjizi... :evil:


pa zato sto lezbijska ljubav i nije nesto najvaznije na svijetu? :| osim toga, njezne price o ljubavi sa hepiendom, kakve ti trazis, mozes naci na predzadnjoj stranici glorije.. :lol: samo si prevedi na lezbijski jezik :lol:

"oranges..." mi je simpa knjiga, mada sam i ja vise ocekivala, ali ovaj stil mi se svidja, podsjeca me na Fannie Flagg, i cijelo vrijeme sam imala osjecaj da je radnja na americkom jugu (osim kad dodju one neke babe sa seljackim britanskim naglaskom :lol: ). ali autorica ima zanimljiva razmisljana, s obzirom da je tu knjigu napisala sa 24 godine.
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Fannie F. ... obožavam Pohane zelene rajčice, i Idgie kad ide po med...obožavam takve likove, u dječjoj književnosti bi to bila Pipi dugačarapa...

Jel netko čitao aimee&jaguar? Ja sam plakala 3 dana i skoro riknula. Imala sam čast upoznati se s E. Fischer, onako kao fanovka, i rekla mi je da je Lily još živa, bilo je to prije par godina, jooj kako mi rade milo :cry: Dobila autogram!

Onda mi nije loša Godina bisera, Zuzane Brabcove, ako se ne varam. Išle djeva i ja u Prag i potažile Klub A iz tog romana, našle ga, ali bio zatvoren, takve smo bile sreće. Probale i fernet kojim se gušila glavna, totalno otkačena junakinja, i skoro povraćale, prejako je to, sestro.
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Ajla Terzic - Mogla je biti prosta prica
S obzirom na nista i ovaj roman je nesto :one:
Steta -mogla je biti dobra prica.
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Violet Trefusis (1894-1972, english writer and socialite) and Wita Sackville-West (1892-1962, english author and poet)


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Vita's first close friend was Rosamund Grosvenor (London, England, September 1888-30 June 1944), who was 4 years Vita's senior. She was the daughter of Algernon Henry Grosvenor, (1864–1907), her grandfather being Robert Grosvenor, 1st Baron Ebury. Vita met Rosamund at Miss Woolf's school in 1899, when Rosamund had been invited to cheer Vita up while her father was fighting in the Boer war. Rosamund and Vita later shared a governess for their morning lessons. As they grew up together, Vita fell in love with Rosamund, whom she called 'Roddie' or 'Rose' or 'the Rubens lady'. Rosamund, in turn, was besotted with Vita. "Oh, I dare say I realized vaguely that I had no business to sleep with Rosamund, and I should certainly never have allowed anyone to find it out," she admits in her journal, but she saw no real conflict: "I really was innocent."
Lady Sackville, Vita's mother, invited Rosamund to visit the family at their villa in Monte Carlo; Rosamund also stayed with Vita at Knole, at Rue Lafitte, and at Sluie. During the Monte Carlo visit, Vita wrote in her diary, " I love her so much ". Upon Rosamund's departure, Vita wrote, "Strange how little I minded; she has no personality, that's why." Their secret relationship ended in 1913 when Vita married. Rosamund died in 1944 during a German V1-rocket raid.

The same-sex relationship that had the deepest and most lasting effect on Sackville-West's personal life was with the novelist Violet Trefusis, daughter of the Hon. George Keppel & his wife, Alice Keppel, a mistress of King Edward VII. They first met when Vita Sackville-West was 12 and Violet was 10, and attended school together for a number of years.
The relationship began when they were both in their teens. Both later married, she and Trefusis had eloped several times from 1918 on, mostly to France, Sackville-West dressing as a man when they went out (as had the French writer Baroness Dudevant, Amandine Aurore Lucie Dupin, a.k.a. George Sand, (1804–1876), had done with ailing younger Polish musician Frederic Chopin, (1810–1849), some 100 years earlier, when residing as a couple, 1838 - early 1839, with her own 2 children, on the island of Majorca, Spain.
The affair ended badly, with Trefusis pursuing Sackville-West to great lengths until Sackville-West's affairs with other women finally took their toll.
The two women had made, apparently, a bond to remain faithful to one another, meaning that although both women were married, neither could engage in sexual relations with her own husband. Sackville-West heard allegations that Trefusis had been involved sexually with her own husband, indicating she had broken their bond, prompting her to end the affair. By all accounts, Sackville-West was by that time looking for a reason for breaking up the relationship, and used this as justification. Despite the rift the two women were devoted to one another, and deeply in love, and continued to have occasional liaisons for a number of years afterwards, but never rekindled the affair.
Vita's novel Challenge also bears witness to this affair: Sackville-West and Trefusis had started writing this book as a collaborative endeavor, the male character's name, Julian, being Sackville-West's nickname while passing as a man. Her mother, Lady Sackville, was the illegitimate Anglo-Spanish daughter of the 2nd Lord Sackville, Lionel, married to a cousin, Vita's father, the third Lord Sackville, found the portrayal obvious enough to refuse to allow publication of the novel in England; but her own son Nigel Nicolson, (1973, p. 194), however, praises her: "She fought for the right to love, men and women, rejecting the conventions that marriage demands exclusive love, and that women should love only men, and men only women. For this she was prepared to give up everything… How could she regret that the knowledge of it should now reach the ears of a new generation, one so infinitely more compassionate than her own?"

The affair for which Sackville-West is most remembered was with the prominent writer Virginia Woolf in the late 1920s. Woolf, sister of Vanessa Bell, both daughters of Leslie Stephen, founder of the Dictionary of National Biography, wrote one of her most famous novels, Orlando, described by Sackville-West's son Nigel Nicolson as "the longest and most charming love-letter in literature", as a result of this affair.
Unusually, the moment of the conception of Orlando was documented: Woolf writes in her diary on 5 October 1927: "And instantly the usual exciting devices enter my mind: a biography beginning in the year 1500 and continuing to the present day, called Orlando: Vita; only with a change about from one sex to the other" (excerpt from her diary published posthumously by her husband Leonard Woolf).



Ljubavna drama izmedju Vite i Violet ekranizovana je u filmu "Portrait of a marriage" (BBC, 1990,Drama, 4 Episodes, 219 Minutes).
Rezija: Stephen Whittaker
Uloge: Janet McTeer (kao Vita, vanredno dobro je odigrala) i Cathryn Harrison (kao Violet)


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dobra serija...
‎Ne blistam jer sam tako izabrala. Ne šepurim se jer volim tajne. Smijem se jer sam sretno biće. Kad šutim sa sobom se sastajem u tamnim hodnicima sebe i tada bi se trebala najviše bojati jer nagovorim se na svakojake bezobrazluke. Na sebe sam slaba.
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